Pastors told to get rid of "troublemakers"
(RICK WARREN'S WAY)
Driven Guru tells Pastors that Disunity is Satan's "Greatest Weapon" (?)
It figures that Rick Warren would unite with over 100 assorted
liberals, heretics and confused Evangelicals in a love-letter
calling for unity and common ground with Muslims. However, when dealing with
dissenters who oppose his Purpose Driven philosophy and theology, its clearly his
way or the highway.
In his November 14, 2007 directive to pastors, What the Bible says about handling disunity from his
Pastors.com website, Warren outlines that "You've got to protect the unity of
your church. If that means getting rid of troublemakers, do it."
Disruptions and disagreements in the Body are unseemly. However,
unity in the church at the expense of truth isnt really unity at all. Likewise,
troublemakers may actually be rescuers of the Church if the questions they raise and the
opposition they bring are scripturally founded and aimed at restoring authentic biblical
teaching and practices. But of course, we need to understand exactly what terms like
unity and troublemaker refer to in Rick Warrens universe.
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand what Warren
means when he encourages leaders on how to deal with dissenters opposed to
what he deems as progress. To Warren, disunity refers to
opposition to the new way to do church, in particular, the Purpose Driven way.
For example, Warren has clearly stated that those who insist on
opposing his church transforming plan for growth are problems. He has joked
about eliminating those of us stuck in what he considers the Stone Age by stating,
The pillars are only holding things up! Warren claims that when those
unwilling to change do leave a church that in reality its a blessed
subtraction. Talk like this should be perceived as offensive. It is sad that so many
What Warren has accomplished in his short tenure as Secretary and
Guru of Growth isnt funny to a lot of people. To condescend about and encourage what
amounts to the disenfranchisement of people who have poured their time, money and emotions
into a church - for what appears to be the sake of selling more books and materials - is
frankly sick. Though Im sure it sounds cynical, when one considers the money that
has changed hands to acquire Purpose Driven materials, it is to Warrens advantage
that any negative voices be made to appear foolishly out of step and silenced if possible.
Encouraging the elimination and alienation of those who defy the growing Purpose Driven
invasion when it comes knocking on their church doors is a key goal in Warrens
strategy. These dissenters are interfering with his version of unity. They are bad for
business. They defy his obvious hunger for power and control. They are the troublemakers.
Warren begins his November 17 email by stating that the Bible speaks
more about unity then of Heaven and Hell. Though I havent taken the time to count up
the references yet, I am confident that this isnt so. Let me ask, what about
references insisting that we ministers hold to sound doctrine Rick? Does unity outweigh
that too? It would appear so at least in Warrenessee. Warren concludes by telling his
estimated 400,000+ readers that disunity is Satans greatest weapon against the
Church. What? While it might be construed as progress that Rick Warren even
acknowledges the existence of Satan, to espouse the notion that disunity is the
Devils chief weapon is not just poor theology. It is a lie. Sins, such as greed and
lust, are Satans greatest weapon against the Church. However, if Rick Warren is able
to make these statements unchallenged then slothfulness and biblical ignorance are
obviously gaining ground.
WHOEVER SAID THAT MINISTERS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT?
The Bible does warn those who cause division and give instructions on
how to deal with them. However, as Paul wrote of this (see Titus 3) the supposition is
that those in leadership are indeed theologically correct and acting biblically first.
Again, no one wants dissention and division but unless a man named Martin Luther a
troublemaking dissenter had caused the great stir and division which he brought
about we might possibly never have broken the bondages and domination of Rome!
Luthers Reformation was based on good theology. Warrens
announced quest for a new reformation is not. What Purpose Driven and Seeker
proponents need to stop and consider before buying further into Warrens folly is
that Jesus warned us a whopping 14 times about religious leaders who would come and
mislead. Pastors and leaders yours truly included - can be mistaken. Does Jesus
expect us to unquestionably accept what is taught every time some alleged Christian leader
with a publishing deal or a microphone concocts yet another wacky program or theology?
Absolutely not! We are to test all teachings, sermons or philosophies to see if they match
up to the Bible. (I Thess 5:21) Otherwise, some other neo-evangelical like Rick Warren
will use the misguided idea of unity before truth to sidetrack others into
what can only be referred to as cultism.
During his last visit with them, Paul warned the Ephesian elders that
after his departure grievous wolves (will) enter in among you, not
sparing the flock. Paul then states that Also of your own selves shall men
arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. He concludes his
warning by stating Therefore watch... (Acts 20:28-31a)
Peter writes, But there were false prophets also among the
people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall
bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon
themselves swift destruction. (II Peter 2:1) In these two passages, Peter and Paul
are obviously directing their warnings at the Church. Therefore, it is not
disunity to oppose unbiblical ideas and teaching inside the Body. It is
actually the most appropriate thing to do.
My words here are not intended to give credence to individuals in
church who are just plain disagreeable, who buck everything at every turn and who are bent
on being upset over silly stuff. But when it comes to indubitably going along with Church
leadership on any given issue particularly, if its only for the sake of unity
itself just remember this phrase: Unity at the expense of truth is not the
unity taught in the Bible. Believers should all be able to unify on that!
For more on Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven Life see:
Disturbing Spiritual Condition
They Say of Us: "They Were the Evangelical?"
Common Ground of Rick Warren and Mitt Romney
the Purpose Driven Philosophy
Christians and Muslims
The only thing I would have changed about the articles on Islam in the December 4th Update
("I Can't Sign the Letter" and "Their God is NOT Our God!") is that I
wouldnt have pulled so many punches!!! LOL. Just kidding.
Ill say one thing, if I was one of those guys that signed this letter, and one of my
flock saw this article, I would be so embarrassed, not to mention damned. You stated the
correct Biblical view with out compromise or apology.
Well done. (as usual)
Thank God for you Eric for standing boldly
without fear for our God.
It is definitely time for the truth to come
out. what has happened to the church. its not powerful at all. I like what you preach and
teach keep it up. Its time for the church to wake up.
I have been receiving your email for a while
now....just wanted to tell you one more time, KEEP UP THE WONDERFUL DEDICATED WORK!!!! You
are so disciplined in your work...I try, but get so distracted. Thank you again. God speed
for you and your Ministry.
Elizabeth, David, Amanda and many others,
I can't thank you enough for that statements of encouragement.
God bless you!
Old Videos Still ALIVE
Dear Brother Eric!!!
I was so glad to find that you had a
website!!! I figured that you did, though! Ran across a video that I bought years ago,
when you visited our Church (First Church of the Open Bible) in Spokane, WA.
I have been watching it again and I am going
to pass it on to a friend. All of the stuff on it is still relevant!!! I think it was done
in 1993 while you were speaking in Canada! But, I cannot believe that what was said on
there is even MORE relevant for TODAY!!! The times sure are heating up more and more,
Just wanted to say "Thank You" for what you are continuing to do for the Lord
and to warn people. You were a blessing to me then and you are a blessing STILL. God Bless
you brother for all of your hard work, and the hard work of your family and staff!!! God
be with you all, and I look forward to our FUTURE together!
I found you by just typing your name and .com in and THERE YOU WERE!!! When I got the
video....there wasn't a website then, I think!
Thanks for the email.
I am always excited to see how the Lord is still using so many of the "old"
books, videos and audio tapes. Praise the Lord!
Thanks for the update and for your continued prayers and support.
God Bless you!
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Almost makes me want to stop using Google (along with some other things I've heard).
God bless you,
Yes I know that Yahoo, Google, MSN...virtually all web services accept adds for anyone
willing to pay and that those ads are placed along side emails or searches that have
similar topics included. So, my emails warning of the occult and Harry Potter and
Mormonism, etc often generate opposing advertising. I'm not going to defend them per se
but in this case its really not Google's fault. Its just the way their programming system
Anyway, I appreciate you sending me the ads. They do serve as a reminder of how many pagan
influences there are out there.
Bless you my friend and Happy Thanksgiving!
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