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Calvinism vs. Arminianism
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comments: Hi Eric,
I have been listening to
an online church for some time now and here lately I
have be questioning
their beliefs. They claim to be Calvinisms.
I would like you
take on this. Is this
man made or is it from God?
God bless you and your
family
Kelly
Hello Kelly,
Thanks for writing!
They appear to be Christians indeed, teaching salvation by grace and
holding to the Scriptures. By the looks of those whom they revere and
recommend (such as Charles Spurgeon,
George Witfield, E.M. Bounds, Jonathan
Edwards and others) it would appear that they are recommending classic
Christianity. They are coming from a Puritan background theologically.
Please note that many Christians believe in the "Tulip" or "Five Points"
of Calvinism including many Baptists,
most all Presbyterians and certainly
all Puritans. I have many friends, pastors and churches that appreciate
our ministry from those circles inside Christianity. I also have many good
friends in ministry and in congregations who do not believe in the "Five
Points" but again, this set of doctrines does not redeem not excuse
anyone. It is our view of Christ and our acceptance of His finished work
which saves us.
However, with that said, the group you are inquiring about does appear to
be hyper-Calvinistic in their
peripheral doctrine. Though I do not know if this is the case with The
First Baptist Church of Algiers, if they or any other group takes Calvinism
to the extreme and build their view of who they can fellowship with upon
this alone or who is authentically saved based on an individual's view of
Calvinism alone then it can become
divisive and nearly cult like.
You may have heard this before but as
Calvinists they believe in God's sovereign choice of the elect and
believe that if one is truly saved that they had little or no part to play
in salvation and that there is no way that one's salvation could be
rescinded or lost.
The other main position on these issues in Christianity is
Arminianism. It was the position held
to by Charles Wesley who founded the Methodist
Church. They believe in mans free will and though God's Spirit woos and
calls a man to be saved that it is a decision man makes to accept or
reject the free gift of salvation as he gives way to the work of the Holy
Spirit in his life. They also generally believe that in individual
circumstances one can make a cognizant decision to abandon their
salvation. This position is generally held to by those in The Church of
the Nazarene, the Assemblies of God, Wesleyans
and of course orthodox Methodists.
I
understand the beliefs of so-called "Five Point" or "Tulip"
Calvinists as I youth
pastored for a year in a Presbyterian
Church (in the PCA or Presbyterian
Church in America) in the 1980's. They are indeed Christians and I have
had good fellowship with many from the PCA and also from the Reformed
Church and Reformed Presbyterian Church including Dr. D. James Kennedy.
However, while I was in the PCA church position I realized that I simply
could not adhere to all that Reformed Theology dictates. My mentor, the
late Dr. Walter Martin called himself a "Cal-Minion because he believed in
some of both Calvin and Wesley's
peripheral views about salvation and eternal security. Even before I began
to be influenced by Dr. Martin's
thinking in this area I had come to the conclusion that I could not
personally and in good conscience adhere to all of the tenants of or teach
at least three of the five points of
hyper-Calvinism.
The Calvinistic "Tulip" is:
Total
Depravity
Unconditional
Election
Limited
Atonement
Irresistible
Grace
Perseverance
of the Saints
The points, which I personally differ with the “Tulip” teaching the most,
are:
Unconditional Election/Irresistible Grace - says that man has no
part to play in his own acceptance of God's gift of salvation. This seems
to run counter to the many passages which deal with the free will of man
and also the many evangelistic passages found in the Gospels and Epistles
which plead with sinful man to repent and be saved. I believe that God is
completely sovereign and that He knows exactly who will, in the end, be
saved. But does He manipulate mankind, making us mere human robots
concerning our eternity. Tulip Calvinism
says yes, Arminianism says no and I
believe that since we are still residing in a fallen creation that
indeed salvation is a matter of God calling and us responding and
accepting His offer of eternal life. After all, Lucifer rebelled against
God to start the mess we are in here on the Earth. Was it in God's perfect
will that he do so or was it a matter of autonomous free will that he and
1/3rd of Heaven's angels were cast out? Remember though, in the midst of
this tumultuous uprising by his created creatures God remained completely
in control, with a plan and 100% sovereign. This is a fact that my little
finite brain has trouble grasping yet I believe it completely.
Limited Atonement - says that Christ's
sacrifice was only for the predestined elect and that some individuals are
doomed and without any hope of being redeemed by faith/grace. While
millions will ignore and thus reject Christ's
atoning work, the Scripture says that "He is the atoning sacrifice for our
sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the
whole
world."
(I John 2:2) I personally cannot ignore the words of Peter which tell us
that God wishes, or as is said in the King James Version is "not willing
that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (II Peter
3:9)
You asked if this was from God or made up by men...I believe we can
probably say that the divergent views expressed in Christian churches
today that were popularized by John Wesley (who held to part of the
teachings of the scholar Arminian from
the 16th century) and John Calvin about the
sovereignty of man and eternal security is the work of two
brilliant Christians who saw and then emphasized opposite views on this
issue. Thankfully for all who followed their teaching, both Wesley and
Calvin taught vigorously that Jesus Christ is the answer and that His
blood paid the penalty of the sins of all those who would place their
trust in Him and that His resurrection triumphed over the grave. Praise
the Lord!
I
would have no problem preaching and ministering in a Calvinist or Puritan
church...or in a Nazarene or to an Assemblies of God congregation. I teach
no peripheral or non-essential doctrine along these lines in my
apologetics seminars which would segregate me from those in either camp.
After all, it is the Cross of Christ and His precious blood that saves us
- not our belief on what comes down to an issue related to the sovereignty
of man.
So, even though there is much more that could be said on this topic, there
is a rather long answer for you but I do hope that it helps you sort out
and also recognize the two main beliefs within the bounds of Christianity
on this issue.
Let me know if I can be of any further help.
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